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Twinkle
12-06-2013, 05:01 AM
Hi Folks

With the winter of discontent approaching and temperatures around freezing ( its warm really )
I was thinking of fitting a nose cone type semi fairing to the trike something that would cover the feet and come back as far as the front wheels , BUT ( with me there is always a but ) cannot see anything I can adapt , any ideas out there ? ......... Or I will have to build a "nose cone from balsa wood and formers and skin with glassfibre soaked nylon ,

regards emma

Ticktock
12-06-2013, 05:46 AM
Hi Emma,
Strangely enough, I use balsa wood for polishing clock parts. It may be a good idea to check the price, as it is now a loooott more pricey than when I used to build model aircraft!
Styrofoam may be a better alternative, and may be lighter, but be careful what happens when the resin meets the foam, as some of them do not get on too well together.
We had big problems with this trying to make fiberglass fuel tanks of odd shapes, and the only way we got round it was to use foam as a mould, painted with something that would resist the resin, then wash the whole lot out with petrol when cured. Of course, technology may have changed in the last twenty years.
Steve G

Being a bit more serious, I am thinking that I may be able to do this with a sheet thin plastic, which I can get here (have not checked the price, which means I may not want to do it).
It would need a light frame, and then a few bolts or something to attach the plastic, but that's as far as the idea has gone. Compound curves are really nice. but hard in flat sheets.
More research needed, and as I have to return to Australia for a couple of years, the weather incentive tends to disappear, and , as yet, there are no bikes in Australia to fit a fairing to.
Looks like more building just to be able to do more research.
Just had a thought--the speed incentive could drive the research!

TexasTuff
12-06-2013, 09:32 AM
Emma, do a search for Coroplast. I forget what you call it on your side of the world. May be strong enough for your purpose without a sub-frame.
Complete velomobile bodies have been built of it. There are several links to construction links on my blog. http://texasrecumbents.wordpress.com/velo-construction/ This page has several examples of simple front fairings. http://www.biketcba.org/TRICORR/projects/myprojects.html You should be able to build one in a day for $20+ and not have to mess with messy fiberglass stuff for days.

Here is a second choice. Dacron heat shrunk on a frame. http://texasrecumbents.wordpress.com/skin-on-frame/ Another one day project without much messs. Just paint the Dacron/nylon with good quality latex paint.
Looking forward to what you come up with.

DannyC
12-06-2013, 10:40 AM
Would a section from the bottom of a plastic barrel work?
Like this.....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220-LITRE-PLASTIC-BARREL-/161164922326?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item25862d8dd6
A simple frame and 2-part clamp to put it on the end of the main boom perhaps?
Cut the length and depth to suit?
Just thinking out loud.

D.

Twinkle
12-06-2013, 11:12 AM
Danny
Only if the barrel was full of wine :joker:

This is the idea I had in mind but with a solid ( not transparent nose ) this is a hp design

http://s15.postimg.org/t4bm0sukb/streamer.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
windows 7 screenshot

regards emma
(http://postimage.org/app.php)

TexasTuff
12-06-2013, 11:57 AM
Oh yes, you can do that also. http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/bubbles/hpvbubbles.htm

http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/bubbles/hpvoven.gif

darnthedog
12-06-2013, 12:05 PM
[How about a real canopy like the following: www.blueskydsn.com/kit_canopy.html
They are a bit pricey but they look really cool and they have a body kit for full enclosure if you prefer.
They are not the only provider of canopies. But it is one I had bookmark as I intend to use it when I build my enclosures for both my projects.

There is also http://www.instructables.com/id/Method-for-making-3D-shapes-used-to-make-a-bike-f/

I will warn you in advance the Instructables site is addicting. Type bicycke in the search line and you will have months of entertaining reading as well as kilo tons of bad ideas of things to try and do.
But those are just a couple ideas for you to pursue at your leisure.

go1000go
12-06-2013, 01:32 PM
Have you seen this

http://www.esheet.co.uk/site/product-domes-page.php

Twinkle
12-06-2013, 02:49 PM
Thanks Tim ,
That looks interesting , blue sky ones were nice but at 800 delivered , Its not in the Zombie tradition , I need to draw it out a bit more once I get a few more ideas .

Still think the steel bike rims as hoops and thin wire welded to create a shape might be the way to go , I need to sleep on it for a while once the ideas have penetrated the old grey matter , part of the dome would make a nice windscreen , temping once the idea take fruition

regards emma

go1000go
12-06-2013, 06:20 PM
Hi Emma

Those blue sky ones are lovely, had a picture as a wallpaper on my phone for ages.


Have you seen this article http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/teubner/orangeii.htm

I was trying to think of other hemisphere used here in Uk, best I have come up with so far is plastic mixing bowls!

darnthedog
12-06-2013, 06:58 PM
Zombie tradition- go to aircraft junk yard and get a canopy from a scrap plane- I suspect that is where blue sky got the idea in the first place.

FrankCrank
12-06-2013, 08:40 PM
....here's an easy way to hide from the elements, but not much good for the frontal area I guess......

http://s21.postimg.org/vf8h50c8z/ike_ubrella.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vf8h50c8z/)

Twinkle
12-12-2013, 02:07 PM
Zombie tradition- go to aircraft junk yard and get a canopy from a scrap plane- I suspect that is where blue sky got the idea in the first place.
Unfortunately aircraft scrap yards dont grow on trees around here

but John has suggested taking a mould from a large heavy duty balloon and casting a nose pod from the part most suited

project on hold at the moment as the MKII trike ought to be finished next .

thanks and regards
emma

bambuko
12-12-2013, 04:10 PM
Unfortunately aircraft scrap yards dont grow on trees around here...
you are indeed correct, but might want to investigate even better place for scrap canopy - nearest gliding club :)
it might be even the right shape as well?

Twinkle
12-12-2013, 04:31 PM
you are indeed correct, but might want to investigate even better place for scrap canopy - nearest gliding club :)
it might be even the right shape as well?

That one might be a good idea , have local one ,

regards emma

Ticktock
12-12-2013, 09:38 PM
Glider canopy may well be lighter too! Some of them are quite looong on the two seaters.
Steve G

stormbird
12-13-2013, 06:08 AM
Emma

here ? http://forum.atomiczombie.com/showthread.php/4993-Fairing-for-Warrior-Trike post 8

or

http://www.mosquito-velomobiles.com/mosquito_zero.htm

I have some pictures somewhere of a plywood & stringer covered nose cone & back box , I will see if I can find them.

go1000go
12-13-2013, 09:41 AM
Hi Emma

Bit more food for thought, the oven could be one used for power coating.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_111051/article.html

TexasTuff
12-13-2013, 06:42 PM
Emma, though of you when I ran across this today.
This is a simple to build fairing that I ran across today (http://www.azub.eu/blog/azub-eco-trike/fairing-for-azub-eco-trike). It should keep you dry, won't bake you under a clear cover and might add some aerodynamics. It would be easy to adapt a hood and could fit either a delta or tadpole.

George
http://texasrecumbents.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/simplefairing.jpg?w=300&h=225

go1000go
12-14-2013, 07:10 AM
Emma

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIGHTWEIGHT-RACE-Recumbent-Bicycle-Fairing-Nose-Cone-/251383006622?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts _SR&hash=item3a8798459e
45 nose fairing buy it now price.

Tim

Twinkle
12-14-2013, 06:30 PM
Emma

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIGHTWEIGHT-RACE-Recumbent-Bicycle-Fairing-Nose-Cone-/251383006622?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts _SR&hash=item3a8798459e
45 nose fairing buy it now price.

Tim

Thanks Tim
have been in contact with Paul Catling , He does a standard one as well as the lightweight , waiting for more details will post when I have more details

regards emma

stormbird
12-15-2013, 11:17 AM
Emma

Common that's cheating :joker:

What about this with front wheels :-

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=w98DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA427&dq=pedal+driven+ice+sled&hl=en&sa=X&ei=V8etUpPvAqWg7AbqyIEw&ved=0CE8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=pedal%20driven%20ice%20sled&f=false

Looks fast when it is standing still , just needs 2 wheels on the front ?

Twinkle
12-15-2013, 11:59 AM
that look good paul only needs a flowerpot heater to stay warm

ref the fairing its a bit bigger than I wanted but hey ho i'm a zombie i can do it

regards emma

go1000go
12-15-2013, 06:05 PM
Hi Emma
Have you considered a tailsok
http://t-cycle.com/tailsoks-c-10/
This would be zombieable

Twinkle
12-15-2013, 09:21 PM
Hi Emma
Have you considered a tailsok

This would be zombieable

The rear end is going to be cowled in over the batteries up to the panniers ,I only want a smaller nose cone just to deflect some of he wind/weather as I am getting fed up getting soaked I think a smaller nose fairing might do the job the ones on ebay are quite large but of course can be made a bit smaller . Still I must finish the MKII next to free up some workshop space before I start another project .

regards emma

socialtalker
12-15-2013, 10:52 PM
okay, let me first apologize. because i am going to be a jerk and say that looks absolutely ridiculous :)!
it may do what its supposed to do, but come on! you might as well paint it and make it look like a big bib! LOL


Emma, though of you when I ran across this today.
This is a simple to build fairing that I ran across today (http://www.azub.eu/blog/azub-eco-trike/fairing-for-azub-eco-trike). It should keep you dry, won't bake you under a clear cover and might add some aerodynamics. It would be easy to adapt a hood and could fit either a delta or tadpole.

George
http://texasrecumbents.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/simplefairing.jpg?w=300&h=225

Ticktock
12-16-2013, 08:28 AM
At last somebody finally came out with the truth!!!! Well done.
It does look bad , even if it does work (well, not a s a bib, as you could not really eat wearing it, could you?
Steve G

go1000go
12-16-2013, 06:10 PM
Larry's fairing
http://youtu.be/Dbfw66a1kQI