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Bunk
03-04-2010, 03:11 PM
I'm starting my build of my Marauder and because it rides so low to the ground for safety I know it will need some type of flag so cars can see me coming. What are different types of flags or warnings that I can use on it so my wife doesn't call me a dork.....

Kyle

jimFPU
03-04-2010, 03:38 PM
If you're worried about you wife calling you a dork, then you're in the wrong hobby...:jester:

Odd Man Out
03-04-2010, 08:12 PM
for safety I know it will need some type of flag so cars can see me coming. Kyle

Kyle
the more "dork" the safer -- ask your wife if she would rather have a live dork or a dead or mangled cool dude...

Flags are for the purpose of being seen from the side. Here is my favorite -- It is flourescent and reflective both:

http://www.beseenwear.com/flagbike.html

I know that Brad detests flags and thinks that they are dangerous if you rely on them for your safety. I agree but I think that anything is better than nothing (this of course depends on the driver -- some would run over you if you were driving a flourescent yellow M1A1 Abrams tank!!) I always ride with a flag and mirrors but always ride like I am invisible to motorists...

To be seen in the front use a good high lumen flashing white or amber light. IMHO dinotte makes the best.

Here is a bunch of URL's for other safety devices -- enjoy;
http://www.deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn
http://www.gloglov.com/
http://www.hokeyspokes.com/index.html
http://www.reallite.com/details.htm
http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodJL_8512A.html
http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/generic140.html
http://www.colebrothers.com/reflective/index2.html
http://needdecals.stores.yahoo.net/lareamfl.html
http://www.monkeylectric.com/index.htm
http://shop.nightfirepatches.com/main.sc
http://www.night-gear.com/
http://www.x-tremegeek.com/templates/searchDetail.asp?productid=21267
http://www.shop.pedigreen.com/main.sc
http://www.customwheelweights.com/store/merchant.mvc?page=C/CTGY/BTSX
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=8063580&PMT4NO=39038910
http://www.streetglo.net/conspicuity.tape.html
http://glowinc.com/

John Lewis
03-05-2010, 08:23 AM
I have a flag on my Marauder. It is one of the orange ones on a fibreglass pole the bike shop sells for kids bikes. My main use on the bike is to make the bike more visible from the point of view of a pedestrian who might be about to cross from in front of a parked vehicle. My second use is hopefully to remind the motorist who pulls up too close behind me and can't see the bike that I am there as it waves in his face.

Motorists should see you under normal circumstances. They see the line on the road. They avoid bottles and debris. The bike is as big as a small refrigerator so you should be seen. Working in your favour too is that you are an unusual sight.

All that said don't trust a motorist to see you. Act to be big. Be predictable Take the lane where possible (dont'ride on the edge)but assume at all times that you are invisible and you should be right.
This is worth a read. "The Theory of Big"
http://www.tibsnjoan.co.uk/Big.html

John Lewis

HPVTraveler
03-05-2010, 01:07 PM
Am yet to get a bike-trike-quad on the road, but here are some things that I live by since my road wheels are a mid sized 550cc Honda Silverwing bike:

1-Sometimes the roof leaks a little bit.

2-The heater and the ac. work oppisite seasons of what you want them to.

3-Its a "Flintstone's" style of reverse.

4-It doesn't matter how brite a color you are, if they continue to drive while eating, drinking, smoking, talking-or-texting, shaving-or-doing-makeup (sometimes all at the same time). IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG & BRITE CAUSE THEY WILL NEVER SEE YOU.

Maybe if everyone made their rigs to look like a mirror ... at least then they would be looking at you, even if they would still only be using you to look at themselves.

Sorry if I carried on a bit in my rant about drivers who don't remember the rules of the road.

davec8656
03-05-2010, 05:28 PM
It's the same about everywhere. I work for a school district and it still amazes me that something as big and well lit as a bus can still be invisible to many motorists. The same rule applies when I am riding or driving. I never assume that the other person sees me. Defensive driving is just as essential on a bike as in a car. I too am building a Marauder and I plan to add a flag. My 4 yr old grandson asked me about the flag before I mentioned it to him. Smart boy!! His recumbent bike will have one too. Blessings!! DaveC

Bunk
03-05-2010, 05:31 PM
Odd Man Out. Great links! I really like the Hokey Spokes. Those are neat.

I'm used to the wife calling me a dork, but as far as flags go you never see them on Brad's bikes but I think most people realize that you will need one for safety on any "low riding bike". Around here if you have a flag on your bike your a really young kid or your handicapped. (Nothing wrong with that and don't want to sound mean). Just wondering if there were any flags that were maybe less intrusive, instead a thick orange fiberglass post that it would have more like a car cell phone antenna, thin metal with a spring twist to it on the bottom. Still would have a flag but post would not stick out and look weird.

Kyle

Odd Man Out
03-05-2010, 07:53 PM
Still would have a flag but post would not stick out and look weird.

Kyle

Soooo let me get this straight, you will be riding what kind of vehicle but you don't want your flag to look weird??? Huh?!?!?!

Weird is one of the things that will help keep you safe and seen

davec8656
03-06-2010, 09:19 PM
Odd Man Out , I totally agree. The flag pole I plan to use is a tapered fiberglass stick off the front of a school bus. AKA crossing arm. It makes the students cross in front of the bus at a safe and visible distance so they don't get hurt. It is about 4-5 feet long and isn't real flexible, but it will help with visibility. I was thinking of perhaps a flag for a local sports team or maybe even the Stars and Stripes. Yeah, I'm patriotic. Blessings!! DaveC

savarin
03-06-2010, 10:47 PM
Our flag is only for advertising. NQ recumbent riders. (North Queensland)
We changed from HPV because most web searches for HPV (human powered vehicles) pull up reams of info on the human papilloma virus . Just a tad different.
I dont think the flag does much for safety as we already look so different so as to provide a shock to the brain dead drivers.
What cars need is a long sharp spike in the center of the steering wheel. That would make them more aware of other traffic and conditions and cut down speeding.
Darwin in action, the ones left would be the responsible ones.:jester::jester:

Odd Man Out
03-07-2010, 02:29 AM
I was thinking of perhaps a flag for a local sports team or maybe even the Stars and Stripes. Yeah, I'm patriotic. Blessings!! DaveC

Me too! I use these -- they are Excellent

http://needdecals.stores.yahoo.net/lareamfl.html

davec8656
03-15-2010, 12:33 AM
True, the recumbent bikes I see on a regular basis I can count on one hand. They are rare and really catch your attention. I imagine one as low and radical as the Marauder even more so. I look forward to this spring when I can get this machine out and get some serious riding done.:sunny: Not to mention I will have at least two more bikes to build. Man this is great fun!! Blessings!! DaveC

savarin
03-15-2010, 07:24 AM
True, the recumbent bikes I see on a regular basis I can count on one hand. They are rare and really catch your attention. I imagine one as low and radical as the Marauder even more so. I look forward to this spring when I can get this machine out and get some serious riding done.:sunny: Not to mention I will have at least two more bikes to build. Man this is great fun!! Blessings!! DaveC

Medic! Medic!
We have a serious case of addiction setting in.:punk:

Racer46
03-15-2010, 08:08 AM
We had custom flags made at http://www.dwflags.com/store/ for our Crusty Retired All Bent Society, of which I'm an honorary member, http://www.dwflags.com/store/view_product.php?product=CrabsClubFlag I'm sure she would do an Atomic Zombie flag if Brad & Kat would O.K. using the logo.

davec8656
03-15-2010, 05:27 PM
thanks for the info. I will need a flag holder of some sort when the time comes. Soon I hope. Still need to get to WalMart to get some chain, need to finish the steering and run the cables. Hoping the disc brake adapters get here too. Blessings!! DaveC:sunny:

PeterT
03-15-2010, 11:00 PM
DaveC,
Are those disc brake adaptors you are waiting for,the ones i am sending out?
Cos i might not have had you order some from me! i f you did contact me about the hub flanges/disc brake adaptors, i should be posting more out this fortnight.
PeterT

davec8656
03-17-2010, 03:00 PM
Yes Peter, those are the ones. I sent you my postal info via email a while back. I'm in Independence, MO. I believe you replied that you were sending me 3 or 4 of the brake adapter kits. No pressure, I will install the rim brakes if need be, but will eventually add the disc brakes. Thanks, Blessings!! DaveC:sunny:

Bunk
04-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Right now my plan for a flag base or shaft is to use an old magnetic cell phone antenna. The kind that is made out of thin wire and has a bunch of coils on it like a spring so that it can flex. If I can not find one long enough I will just weld on an extra piece for length. Most are threaded so I could just weld a nut on the bike to mount it. This type of shaft will be very thin, flexible and not so obtrusive to the design like a big orange fiberglass one. Then I can put any style flag on it that I want. At any time I can unscrew the flag when I want for travel or storage.

Kyle

savarin
04-23-2010, 10:43 PM
have a look in any shop catering to CB radio. They have heaps of antennas with spring bases.
Then advertise on freecycle or craigs list when you get the correct name.
Just a thought

John Lewis
04-24-2010, 07:26 AM
A friend of mine uses a small telescopic fishing rod (Looks like a car antenna a bit) as his flag mast. Telescopes down to about a foot long. Its easy to stow.

The mast on my Marauder is just a glass pole. I have it fitted to the back axle. It has a slotted plate that came with the pole and flag for a kid bike from K Mart( Like Wally World. It is held by the quick release plus one screw in the old fender mount. I leave the mount on the bike and just slide out the pole when I don't want to use it.

John Lewis

schu777
06-14-2010, 02:28 PM
One thought of building a pole to fit into the M2 seat part that I could then mount lights to - front be blinking white with red blinkers on the back - about 3 each spaced about 6-8 inches apart.

I have another idea of the same concept, but want to design and think about it, once I have the bike built and try the build of it, I'll post it.

Michael

Wrylock
01-17-2013, 09:56 PM
My Idea for safety & Fun is to Make a 5" in diameter antenna ball:jester: I have Ideas for
a Big red Octopus with streaming tentacles fluttering behind,
a Green Cthulhu Squid with long legs.
a Big Eyeball with flames
a Hot air balloon with multicolored ribbons


The materials have been my biggest obstacle has been the cost of purchasing what I need to make one is over $20 :builder2:

river
01-17-2013, 10:34 PM
I have fiberglass poles with the american flag on all my bikes some with strobe lites. it really does help with visability

Wrylock
01-18-2013, 01:02 PM
Like this :sunny:6032