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schu777
05-14-2009, 09:57 AM
While looking online, I came across this and got me thinking that a winter commute would be a better with something like this, although I'd rather not pay their price for it...

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/rainshadow.htm

I'm sure with a bit of thinking/planing, one could come up with something like this...

Michael

GregLWB
05-14-2009, 10:03 AM
While looking online, I came across this and got me thinking that a winter commute would be a better with something like this, although I'd rather not pay their price for it...

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/rainshadow.htm

I'm sure with a bit of thinking/planing, one could come up with something like this...

Michael

I have seen this a few different places and this was the reason I bought the LodeRunner plans. I already have the steel in my garage and plan to build a LR later this summer and enclose it similar to this. My plan is for it to be my winter commute rig so that I can commute year round.

I plan to use 1/2 conduit for the framework and then Coroplast for the body as they have.

Greg

Zwolf
05-14-2009, 03:34 PM
You might wanna give Lexan a look too for the shell material. Used quite a bit in my high school/trade school when the welding shop and the carpentry shop had to work together and rebuild/design/fix after a fire the culinary arts dinning room. We were using a heat gun and some framing to curve the Lexan into shape for the podium by the front door, the wall sconces, sneeze guard, and other things. You'd need a second or even third set of hands depending on how big of a sheet you work at once if your curving it. But a frame, a wide roller of some sort, like a wall paper smoothing roller, and an evenly distributed heat source and you could have a bit of fun. You need to keep even heat on the area your working, it will want to warp if your not careful. And don't expect great circles, it's more of a sweeping arc... though if your good and practice you might be able to get something curvier. While learning how we screwed up a fair number of pieces, but we got to use them as sleds after school... :)

thumper
05-20-2009, 01:54 AM
gday guys i was just thinking you could make up a basic frame and take it to a canvass maker and they could easy make a covered body up for you unless you know how to use a sowing machine it would be even cheaper , canvas or vinyl would do the trick

TheKid
05-20-2009, 02:11 AM
There's a fairing somewhere on the net that was made withvinyl coated tablecloths over a frame. I think the frame was PVC. A sheet of foam was cut for the floor. I think that was 2 inches thick, but I'm not sure. It was a while back.

PeterT
07-30-2009, 04:02 AM
Why not get hold of large sheets of laminating plastic, place flexible fibreglass tent support rods where needed for support, and then apply the heat, and necessary pressure to seal the supports into place, then when you want an unfaired ride, it would just lie flat against a wall till you need it next.:taz:

socialtalker
10-07-2011, 05:44 PM
i love this! i must have it for the delta runner this winter! 1800 dollars??? i cant afford that! i have to try to make this, i cant stop thinking about it, it takes precedence over the motor or engine now, especially since i am making the cycle bully. its the first shell i have seen that doesnt look like a big pickle.
i am excited also because yesterday i bought 3 coroplast boards from a local source 4 by 8 for 13 dollars each, but thats for fiberglassing my loderunner box. they also have acrylic and lexan there too. i have the main parts affordable and local. canvas? wouldnt be too heavy when wet? this coroplast would be great. i cant help but think a thin layer of insulation foam and maybe one layer of fiberglass would be just the thing. still got to build the bike first. jezz i wish this was spring.

did anyone follow thru on this?

Ibedayank
10-07-2011, 09:09 PM
a cheap option would be to make a frame and then bring it to a place that shrink wraps boats for winter storage
if you wanted even stronger use the shrink wrapped bike for a mold for fiberglass.carbon fiber

socialtalker
10-09-2011, 02:53 AM
i had no idea that people shrink wrapped their boats! cant even imagine how much that would cost. in fact, i have no idea what the frame even looks like. i got the impression that coloplast was chosen because it could hold a shape without a lot of framing. i thought the shell has a lampshade quality to it, with the two poles along the side holding up the frame and some wiring at the bottom. it looks like it does use the rear wheels' axles for support, but the delta runner has no axles. a lot of framing might make it too heavy, as i am learning from making a frame for my other bike. with shrink wrapping, i dont see how could control the shape even with a frame, what about cutting into it for doors and windows? do you have a link to this? thanks.


a cheap option would be to make a frame and then bring it to a place that shrink wraps boats for winter storage
if you wanted even stronger use the shrink wrapped bike for a mold for fiberglass.carbon fiber

Ibedayank
10-09-2011, 05:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hEVbrnufgQ&feature=related

available up to 12mm thick
using coloplast you still have to make a frame. not much of one but still a frame.
frame can be made of aluminum tubing/ pvc pipe or a mixture of them
use pvc where you want curves and aluminum tube where you want windows and door


heatshrink takes the form outlines from the frame like heatshrink tubing does to a chunk of wire

socialtalker
10-09-2011, 05:47 PM
thanks for the link. he said it cost five to eight dollars a FOOT! i can get 4by8=32 foot/ sheet of coroplast for 13 dollars. it looks way to thin to really do anything with it. i cant see this as the right material for this sort of application.

Ibedayank
10-09-2011, 06:03 PM
square foot or length of boat foot?

buzzboxdon
10-09-2011, 06:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the Lightfoot commuter cycle is formed out of Coroplast. But with lots of attention to detail fit and finish.
Here are some links to sites and videos to show how others have worked with this material. Hope it helps.

http://ihpva.org/Projects/WVolk/index.html
http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/pauljones/
http://www.recumbent-bikes-truth-for-you.com/coroplast.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1J4lpnyNk
http://www.biketcba.org/TRICORR/projects/fairing4/fairing4.html
http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/practical/hpvpfair.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Xm6CdYmMY



While looking online, I came across this and got me thinking that a winter commute would be a better with something like this, although I'd rather not pay their price for it...

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/rainshadow.htm

I'm sure with a bit of thinking/planing, one could come up with something like this...

Michael

John Lewis
10-10-2011, 08:18 AM
Here is a trike done out as a velo using coro. not a rain shield as such but might be good for some ideas.
I have had some emails with the builder some long time back.
John

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23600382@N06/page3/

schu777
10-10-2011, 08:48 AM
I wonder how hard it would be to use coroplast to make some type of shield for the hammer head...I'm afraid it will be too high and take way too much material to make it worth while...but the timberwolf would work great!

schu777
10-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Love that last video with the pvc/clips - wonder where in the US we could get those clips? Seems like the quick searches I've done only show up in the UK, but haven't done extensive searching...

socialtalker
10-10-2011, 10:31 AM
good question! i am dont know, just going by what he said. didnt think of linear foot, the price would definately be less terrifying. still too think for a shell. however when i went out to munchies last night i thought about the shrink wrap and think it would be a possible income maker with the shell being advertising space. an entire ad heatwrapped on a shell. i wonder how much i could get for that. it might be even better than a car because it moves slower. in fact in europe some company offers regular people the chance to lease their cars as advertising space. depending on if and how much one could get the bike could pay itself off in a month or two.


Ibedayank
Re: Rainsheild...

square foot or length of boat foot?

schu777
10-10-2011, 03:37 PM
As for the advertising on a bike - only depends on where you ride. If you are like me, I ride to/fro work and 1/2 of that is on neighborhood streets, so the advertising would be pointless. Plus you'd have to find someone wanting to put an ad on your bike. Plus you have to consider how far you ride, where you "park" the bike and how big of wording would be visible to drivers. Think about those people that make garage signs - what you advertise would have to be decent size to be readable at a distance. Good idea, but most likely you'd be lucky to get someone to pay you enough to do it and be associated with it.

stormbird
10-11-2011, 01:41 AM
Hi all

this looks good , and delta shaped

http://hasebikes.com/2-1-news-homepage.html

regards Paul

John Lewis
10-11-2011, 05:50 AM
Love that last video with the pvc/clips - wonder where in the US we could get those clips? Seems like the quick searches I've done only show up in the UK, but haven't done extensive searching...

Plumbing store, Hardware store, garden supplies. Look like clips for attaching pipe to walls with a nail or screw. I've seen similar here in Bunnings which is a large hardware warehouse, among the electrical fittings etc.

John

John Lewis
10-11-2011, 05:52 AM
Hi all

this looks good , and delta shaped

http://hasebikes.com/2-1-news-homepage.html

regards Paul

Whats nice about it is that it folds up when you don't want to use it. Might not be too difficult to clone.

John

Ibedayank
10-11-2011, 08:51 PM
Hi all

this looks good , and delta shaped

http://hasebikes.com/2-1-news-homepage.html

regards Paul
think the way the soft sided cabins on boats/sailboats are made
but still need a solid frame to stretch it over

John Lewis
10-12-2011, 03:53 AM
I had a Chinook Ultralight. I think you could do something similar to the way the cockpit was done on that. As its not structural on a bike you could use thin aluminium tube or angle and stainless pop rivets. No need for the high strength 6061T6 ali. The clear was mylar film glued with double sided tape and heat shrunk. The corners were covered with Duct tape. The fabric was held with velcro but could as easily have been glued. I replaced he windows with acetate riveted on when it wore out. Mylar film was a lot lighter
though.
Have a look at these pics. You might get some ideas.
John

http://www.lightsportaircraftpilot.com/birdman_chinook_WT11/pictures.html

schu777
10-12-2011, 07:43 AM
John Lewis: Now with the part of "duct tape", I got to thinking about my paint booth for the M2 - one could just use some simple 4mil (or heavier if wanted) plastic and wrap around a frame. Wouldn't be able to make it as tight as a drum, BUT it would keep the wind off and rain for that matter - at least it would be a "cheap" way to go for a try to see if the frame would work. Well, maybe I'll investigate doing this yet on my Hammerhead yet...I've read about cardboard being used to to get the shape and figure out how to do it before cutting into the coroplast.

Michael

John Lewis
10-12-2011, 09:54 AM
Perhaps something like this. Bit pricey to buy. Doesn't look too hard to make. Might need some mods to suit.

Do go look at the links.
http://www.veltop.eu/us/

John

Ibedayank
10-13-2011, 12:59 AM
Perhaps something like this. Bit pricey to buy. Doesn't look too hard to make. Might need some mods to suit.

Do go look at the links.
http://www.veltop.eu/us/

John

mighty pricey for a couple fiberglass tent poles and some fabric
Walmart here sells the clear plastic that they use for the window parts


http://shrinkwrapboats.com/p-16-heat-shrink-boat-film.aspx
not as costly as you guys think
7mm = 0.27559 inches.

polar bear
10-13-2011, 04:33 AM
Here is another idea, it has both designs for deltas and tadpoles http://www.krash.us/delta.html

RunnerPack
10-13-2011, 07:42 PM
7mm = 0.27559 inches.

Actually, "mil" means 1/1000th of an inch, so it's 0.007". You can get thicker plastic at the hardware store (read: HD, Lowe's, Walmart, etc.) but it doesn't heat shrink, AFAIK. Maybe one could just use a "stretcher" frame of some kind to make the plastic taut. Of course, any plastic sheet is still going to "billow" somewhat with changes of air pressure...

David_s
10-13-2011, 11:07 PM
You could just combine this with some of the other ideas on here. http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/Bubbles/hpvbubbles.htm

socialtalker
10-14-2011, 02:42 PM
i have had a number of umbrellas thru the years, most times i dont bother with them anymore because wind and rain quickly messes them up. this shell reminds me of an umbrella. it might be easy for most people on this forum who seem to have mechanics/engineering backgrounds, but i think the engineering skills needed to design a structure that can stand up to folding and unfolding would be too hard for non-mechanics like me.

Hi all

this looks good , and delta shaped

http://hasebikes.com/2-1-news-homepage.html

regards Paul

Ibedayank
10-15-2011, 12:17 AM
socialtalker...

when the money tree drops enough fruit mine will be unboltable hard body made from fiberglass/carbon fiber

John Lewis
10-18-2011, 04:24 AM
Here's the beginnings of another idea.
http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showpost.php?p=846576&postcount=38

Would need some sides etc but possibly quite doable.

John

socialtalker
10-18-2011, 10:34 AM
warning, people have to register to the forum just to see the picture.
thats a nice shade for the summer sun for a warrior type bike. i dont see it for winter.


Here's the beginnings of another idea.



http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showpost.php?p=846576&postcount=38

Would need some sides etc but possibly quite doable.

John

PeterT
10-18-2011, 05:45 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6162/6258873120_ef648f5f15_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/patremlett/6258873120/) for those who don't have a Bent ridersonline account.

John Lewis
10-19-2011, 03:36 AM
Sorry about that. Thanks Pete for posting it for all to see.

John

socialtalker
10-19-2011, 12:58 PM
i love bubble shields, at least the concept. but i want a i want the side and back windows that slide up and down and i love the hand operated windshield wiper on the front.
when i do a fairing for the meridian, i will have a slight curve for the windshied.


You could just combine this with some of the other ideas on here. http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/Bubbles/hpvbubbles.htm

socialtalker
12-05-2012, 01:37 PM
interesting, they dont appear to carry their velomobile rainshadow anymore.


While looking online, I came across this and got me thinking that a winter commute would be a better with something like this, although I'd rather not pay their price for it...

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/rainshadow.htm

I'm sure with a bit of thinking/planing, one could come up with something like this...

Michael